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elmetodogabriel1



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seth.feinberg

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paultaylor wrote:

2. For compilations continue to match to the compilation track but put into Original Release Time field (ID3 only field in current version of Jaikoz) the release year of the original song.
 


I'm sorry to bump an old thread, but this thread was the best information I could find on this exact problem. Paul, I completely agree that option 2 (having Jaikoz populate a separate Original Release Year field) is by far the best option. I use Jaikoz to rename the folders in the form of "(Year) Artist - Album" and I didn't even realize the issue until I thought it curious that Queen released 3 albums in 2011. I could just use Original Release Year in my renaming mask, if only I could get Jaikoz to populate this field. I'm sorry if this information is elsewhere in the forums or documentation (I swear I looked!) but my Original Release Year field is totally empty and I can't for the life of me figure out how to get Jaikoz to populate it. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Are you saying Original release year field is always empty or that you cant get the value from the field into the filename ?

If the former have you checked that Preferences:MusicBrainz:Format:Put Original Year into Year field is not enabled.

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paultaylor wrote:
Are you saying Original release year field is always empty or that you cant get the value from the field into the filename ?

If the former have you checked that Preferences:MusicBrainz:Format:Put Original Year into Year field is not enabled. 


It is indeed the former. I had Put Original Year into Year field checked. I realize how, in this instance, it was foolish of me to have this checked, but from how I interpret the button, Autocorrecting should have replaced the year field* with the original year (*or whatever its called, I only knew of one date field before I encountered this issue, sorry I'm currently at work or I'd check for the exact term). This clearly didn't happen because I ended up with, for example, 3 Queen albums from 2011 after "rename folder from metadata". Once I have a Original Year field populated in the metadata I know how to use that in the javascript to change my folder naming (in fact I've already written it), but could you perhaps provide a bit more of an explanation on what this button actually does when checked/unchecked, since I'm still a bit confused (and I'm quite sure the misunderstanding is solely on me).

So assuming UNCHECKING this "Put Original Year into Year field" will allow me to populate the "Original Release Year" (or is it Original Release Date?) field with Autocorrect, is there a way for me to have Jaikoz populate this field, alone, without actually Autocorrecting everything else in the tag? For the most part the Autocorrect was dead on, but I made a ton of changes to a number of the records and I'd rather not have to redo the whole process.

As a total aside (and sorry that this isn't the place to ask a different question), I'm taking my partially metatagged music collection on my Macbook for the xmas holiday and plan to purchase a Mac copy of Jaikoz do some work on my collection while at home. Will copying my settings folder in the Windows User Directory and then writing it over wherever the Mac install puts the setting folder sync the settings? I'd rather not have to rewrite all the javascript masks or trust myself to get all the same options clicked (since I already proved unable to effectively do that :) )

Thanks in advance and seriously cannot say enough how much I love this program.
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Yes, you can already do that.

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paultaylor wrote:
Yes, you can already do that. 


I'm sorry I'm not sure exactly which point your responding to. I guess most importantly if you're referring to the ability to get Jaikoz to only populate original year column automatically, I apologize for my ignorance but could you please school me or point me towards some info on how this can be done?

I still don't understand why so many of my year field/re-naming scheme resulted in erroneously dated albums (i.e. 3 Queen albums from 2011) since that "Put Original Year into Year field" was checked, but if I could figure out how to get Jaikoz to auto-populate individual fields in an entry without changing the other fields I would be golden!!!

I would also like to apologize for even asking that last question in my previous post (about syncing preferences), I should have checked before I posted. I bot the second Mac license last night and copied over the Jaikoz folder in the User folder and it appears to have worked. I apologize for wasting yours and the forums time, that type of laziness implies a lack of appreciation for the work that you have done with this awesome program and nothing could be further from the truth.

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Enable Musicbrainz/Format/Put Original Year into Year field
Enable Musicbrainz/Automatch/Do Extra Searches to Find Original Release Year

Will try and find the earliest release that the recording can be found on, and use that as the year field instead of the year field of the actual release.

If you then set Musicbrainz/Format/Year to Replace If Empty then it won't replace any existing values.

So in your case you could go through your songs deleting any dates that are not the earliest release year, but leave the one that are correct alone, then if you run Autocorrect from Musicbrainz it should fill in some of the missing ones without changing the ones that already have a value.

Of course, I cannot guarantee it is going to fix every song, or set every song to the real earliest date, at best it can only set to the earliest date found in Musicbrainz, and it is not that easy to find the earliest release in Musicbrainz when there are different versions of the same recording.

So does that anwser your question or are you asking for something different to this ?

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First, paul thanks so much for your response. I decided that NOT
Enabl(ing) Musicbrainz/Format/Put Original Year into Year field  
and just using the Original Release Year field in my sub-Folder Renaming mask was the best way to go. I completely agreed with your assessment that this was the best way.

My new issue is that I absolutely do NOT want a full date in my Folder Renaming but would actually like the full date in my metadata if available. For example my current mask is : (orginalyear) artist - album" and Automatch put 2005-10-14 in my "Year" and my "Original Release Year" for Bell X1's album Flock. When renaming my folder, I got "(2005-10-14) Bell X1 - Flock" and want (2005) Bell X1 - Flock. Is there anyway, with javascript, to indicate that I would only like to use the 4 digit year in my Renaming mask or do I have to manually replace all the dates in the "Original Release Year" field? I know that I can use Local Correct -> Correct Years to reduce the Year field to just the year, but I'd A) rather have the full date in the tag and B) really need to use the Local Correct feature on Original Release Year, not Year, and don't see how that's possible. I'm sorry that I'm always changing gears but I do feel some woul and any help would again be much appreciated
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Yes, makes perfect sense, and can easily be achieved in the rename mask using substring

i.e.
Code:
 year.substring(0,4)
 

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paultaylor wrote:
Yes, makes perfect sense, and can easily be achieved in the rename mask using substring

i.e.
Code:
 year.substring(0,4)
 
 


Substring!!!! of course! thanks paul!
 
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